Surrey Pickleball Club
Welcome to your information centre for the Surrey Pickleball Club
The Surrey Pickleball Club (SPC) employs levels of play (e.g. 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, 4.5, 5.0) as a means of determining eligibility to play in the various club play events shown on the CALENDAR. The purpose is to match members together that are at the approximately same skill level, thereby providing social yet challenging play.
In past years, members were assigned to a level based on a skills assessment performed by our Ratings Committee, and therefore were “Club Rated”.
Starting in 2021, the Club will move from a Ratings Committee System to a Performance Based Ratings System, using a system provided by pickleballbrackets.com. Highlights include:
Q & A
What are ratings and why do we use them?
Ratings are a way of ensuring that members get to play with other members at or near their own level of play. For example, if you are rated at 3.0, you will play in the 3.0 sessions with other 3.0 players. There are different ways to rate players, such as a ladder system, tournament play, skills assessment, etc. In 2021, SPC will be moving from a Ratings Committee System to a Performance Based Ratings System, using Ladder Play to determine a member's performance and adjust their rating.
What is the difference between Level and Rating?
Each current member has a 2 digit rating that is referred to as their Level (e.g. 3.5). This Level determines which Play Sessions they can signup for in the Weekly Schedule on the Calendar. If a member chooses to signup for Ladder Play Sessions, they will then be asked to Sign Up on pickleballbrackets.com (first time only). Once they do this, they will be assigned a multi digit rating (e.g. 3.5000000). Their Ladder Play results will then be entered, and their ratings will be adjusted based on a number of factors including wins, losses, scores, etc. If their multi digit rating moves high enough to be in another 2 digit Level, they will be moved up and will then be able to sign up for that Level in the Play Sessions. Similarly if they move down.
In my member profile, there are three ratings origin choices (S = Self Rated, C = Club Rated, and T = Tournament Rated). What’s the difference between these and why have three?
The Self Rating is for new members. When you join the club, you self-rate. You play at this level unless you request to move up a level and are successful in being assessed to move up. While you are playing on the self rating, the Captain of the session may reassign you to a different level if they determine you are at the wrong level.
The Club rating is for those who have successfully gone through the club ratings process.
The Tournament Rating is optional and is a place for you to store your USAPA rating.
What rating do I get when I first join SPC?
When you Join and complete the registration form, you will be asked to self rate. Use the ratings descriptions below to select which level you should be playing at. You can also ask others who have watched you play to help you make that decision. You will then play at that level until you successfully move up a level via Ladder Play. While you are playing with your self rating, if the Captain of your sessions determines that you are clearly at the wrong level, he/she may reassign you to a more appropriate level. You cannot self rate higher than 3.5. If you do, you will be moved to 3.5 until you are club rated. There is an exception for a new member who has a USAPA rating higher than 3.5.
I’m renewing my membership. At what level do I play?
If you are a renewing member, you have a Club Rating from last year. You will continue to play at that level until you successfully move to a higher rating under Ladder Play.
Can I request a new club rating?
You no longer need to make a request. If you want a new club rating, you simply signup for Ladder Play Sessions. Your results (wins, losses, scores) in these sessions will be input into pickleballbrackets.com and your rating will be adjusted. These sessions are offered regularly. If your rating improves enough, you will then move to a higher level and be able to register in the higher level sessions. Alternatively, if your rating slides enough, you will move to a lower level.
I transferred from another club. Can I transfer my rating?
If you transferred from another club where you had a rating, you are treated as a new member and must self rate and play at that level (up to a maximum of 3.5) until such time as you improve your rating in Ladder Play.
I have a USAPA rating. Can I self rate with that rating even if it’s higher than 3.5?
Yes. We accept USAPA ratings and they take preference over the club rating if you want them to. For example, if you are 4.0 USAPA rated, you can play 4.0. Make sure you enter your USAPA rating when you sign up, so that we know to set your club rating correctly.
Must ALL members get club rated?
All members must have a 2 digit Level. They do not, however, need to signup for Ladder Play and get a multi digit rating. If a member simply wants to continue playing socially in their existing level, they may do so. They can also play in the Ladder Play Sessions if they like, even if they don’t want to move up a level.
How many ratings sessions will there be and when will they be?
We are planning to have as many Ladder Play Sessions as needed.
How can I see what my current rating is?
You only receive a multi level rating (e.g. 3.5000000) after you signup for your first Ladder Play Session the first time. If you do, then you will be asked to Sign Up in pickleballbrackets.com and an initial multi digit rating will be assigned. That rating will change, based on your performance in Ladder Play Sessions. You can see your current rating anytime, along with other statistics and your play history., simply by logging into pickleballbrackets.com.
If I’m successful at getting rated higher, when can I start playing at that level?
In 1-2 days or less. Our club administrators must make the change in our club website. Once that is done, you can register for sessions at your new level.
Skill Level Criteria
The SPC uses criteria for skill levels that are developed by the US Amateur Pickleball Association (USAPA) and the International Federation of Pickleball (IFP). The rating sheets for each of the skill levels can be found through the following links:
If you're interested in your approximate skill level rating, you can use the following high-level descriptions to self-assess:
1.0 New and have only minimal knowledge of the game and the rules. Need to work most on developing their hand/eye coordination. Frequently miss the ball entirely, but can hit some of the slower balls with their forehand. They have a hard time playing games because they can’t keep a rally going.
1.5 Keep some short rallies going with their forehand, but still fail to return easy balls frequently and occasionally miss the ball entirely. They have played a few games and know the basic rules of the game, including scoring.
2.0 Learning to judge where the ball is going, and can sustain a short rally with players of equal ability. They have obvious weaknesses in most of their strokes. Familiar with court positioning in doubles play.
2.5 Able to keep quite a few balls going with their forehands, make most easy volleys, and are beginning to make some backhands but need to work more on developing their strokes. They are beginning to approach the non-volley zone to hit volleys and are making an effort to be more aggressive, including trying dinks and lobs. Familiar with the rules.
3.0 More consistent on the serve and service return, and when hitting medium-paced shots, but are not comfortable with all strokes and lack control when trying for direction, depth, or power on their shots. They are using lobs and dinks with limited success but don’t fully understand when and why they should use them and don’t have a lot of success with them. This player could be thought of as a “C” player.
3.5 Have achieved improved stroke dependability with directional control on most medium-paced balls and some harder hit balls. They still need to develop more depth and variety with their shots, but are exhibiting more aggressive net play, are anticipating their opponent’s shots better, use lobs and dinks on a regular basis with more success, and are developing teamwork in doubles. Need to develop variety with their shots.
4.0 Have consistent and dependable strokes, including directional control and depth on both forehand and backhand sides. They can reliably serve, use lobs, overheads, approach shots and volleys, and can use spin shots with some success. Occasionally can force errors when serving. Rallies may be lost due to impatience. Teamwork in doubles is evident. Dinks and lobs are used as a major part of their game. They know the rules of the game and play by them.
4.5 Beginning to master the use of power and spin, can successfully execute all shots, can control the depth of their shots, and can handle pace. They have sound footwork and they move well enough to get to the non-volley zone whenever required. They understand strategy and can adjust their style of play according to their opponent’s strengths and weaknesses and their position on the court. They can hit serves with power and accuracy and can also vary the speed and spin of the serve if desired. Dinks and lobs are weapons, and they have had success in tournaments.
5.0 Have mastered all the skills – all the shot types, touch, and spin. Serves are used as weapons.Excellent shot anticipation, extremely accurate shot placement and regularly hit winning shots. Can force opponents into making errors by “keeping the ball in play.” Have mastered the dink and drop shots. Have mastered the shot choices and strategies for drop shots, lobs, and fast-paced ground strokes. Uses soft shots, dinks and lobs to set up offensive situations. Have mastered Pickleball strategies and can vary strategies and styles of play in competitive or tournament matches. Are dependable in stressful situations such as tournament match play. They have athletic ability, quickness, agility and raw athleticism that separate top players from those near the top. Are able to keep unforced errors to a minimum. They can take advantage of opponents errors. Have had successful experience with State, Regional, or National 5.0 competition
*Taken from http://pickleball.com